What we saw was not the work of a deranged 20 year old, it was an expertly conducted assassination attempt that required significant foreknowledge and planning.
I still get chills visualizing Trump wounded & vulnerable standing taller than his supposed protectors around him making him an easy target. Unbelievable! The fumbling & bumbling to get him to safety was excruciating to watch.
Yes it made for some photos for the ages, but it could have brought even more horror.
Will we ever learn the truth & backstory to this infamous day?
He may not have thought he was going to die after shooting. Perhaps he somehow thought that the other snipers were allies. They may have recruited him as if he was part of their team. With them knowing that as soon as he killed Trump, they would dust him.
So we should just accept the narrative of a single shooter? Like how we accepted that same false narrative about the JFK assassination for 60 years. Even though there are already people doing credible audio analysis that strongly dispels the narrative of a single gunman.
There had never been a credible report that there were more than one shooter of JFK. A lot wild speculation and conspiracy theories that make the UFO controversy look sane but nothing credible to say otherwise.
Also since there has been zero evidence that there were more than one shooter, unless your saying the other shooter is even a worse shot than Cooks
"Zero evidence" - you mean like the magic bullet trajectory, multiple eye witness statements, an autopsy report showing two hits? Clearly none of which is "evidence" according to your definition of the word.
All I read was “I make whatever I want of the ‘evidence’ to fit my theory” hey want to believe there were more than one shooter more power to you. Does not change the facts but ok. Also you want to believe Biden was smart enough to steal the election for the president but not for the house you can believe that idiocy as well.
Apparently, you haven’t seen all the recent reports that confirm the involvement of the CIA in the Kennedy assassination. Trump actually released some of the documents, but not all during his last term, and they might be afraid of him releasing the rest. There is almost nobody left anymore who believes the original report of the “magic bullet”.
If I were prone to conspiracies I would be very suspicious of how fast they removed the body of the innocent victim from the bleachers. Almost as if he had been left there for a proper investigation (as it is practice on fatal shootings) the trajectory of the shot would not have been inconvenient for the lone wolf theory.
I don't know about all these theories, but there were certainly alot of "coincidences" and certainly many, many invalid, insipid and downright stupid excuses to say the least!
Seems so obvious. Forensic experts say for sure at least 3 shooters. With cell phones making data so available I hope everyone who had their phones on turn over their videos.
Everyone is missing the statement put out by one of the FBI sharp shooters, who said he had the killer in his sight for over 5 minutes but was told NOT TO ENGAGE. When he turned around and saw Trump go down, he disobeyed orders and took our the sniper. His name is Jonathan WIllis. He was arrested, then fired. He is out of jail, but I am sure they will try to bury him with his story. If you look on the Fox video of the two snipers inside the venue, you can see one with his eye to his scope, then turn around and quickly turn back and fire.
Clearly this entire event was setup to get Trump killed. What role the SS played as active participants in this is still to be fully determined. SS was taken off Trump and moved to Jill Biden and NATO events that day. Additional SS protection that was requested by Trump's team was refused. No SS showed up to brief the cops the day of the event. The people surrounding Trump were Marshals, not SS, as indicated by their US Marshals lapel pins. It is not clear who the snipers were in the second story, and eye witness say they just stood there and watched as Crooks shot at Trump. I could go on but it's all in the story.
lol yep you could but it would not make your story in any better. It is so full of fantasy.
Trump’s eldest daughter, Ivanka Trump, condemned the attack in a statement on X, thanking people for their prayers. “I am grateful to the Secret Service and all the other law enforcement officers for their quick and decisive actions today,” she wrote. “I continue to pray for our country.”
A close up photo of the sniper team that included the man with the tattoos on his left arm shows his vest back says POLICE in bold letters and “United States Secret Service” in smaller print. That refers to the
Sorry—refers to the team seen over Trump’s right shoulder. It is commonly claimed and shown in schematics of the area that a second sniper team was on the rooftop seen over Trump’s left shoulder. As to the term “local PD,” it is unclear (at least to me) what “local” means. Pennsylvania State Police? County sheriff and deputies? Municipal Police Department? Does anyone have links to photos of those other one, two, or three sniper teams and their uniforms and positions before and during the shooting?
The one thing about this scenario that doesn't add up is that there is no way they would go to all this trouble and then trust the marksmanship of a kid who cannot shoot well. Two witnesses and a video put a second shooter on the water tower. The audio caught a total of 11 shots fired, which were some combination of Shooter #1, Shooter #2, and SS counter-snipers returning fire. I suspect the first shot that nicked Trump's ear was fired by the guy on the water tower. The kid was probably instructed to open fire as soon as he heard the first shot. He took three or four fast shots without aiming between them, thus hitting people in both sets of bleachers. Both rifles were suppressed. You still hear the crack of the supersonic round, but there was no very loud boom that an AR makes.
The problem with your theory is that Trump is still alive. Two shooters, one a professional, is a no-miss situation. I highly doubt there were two shooters simply because Trump is still breathing. They didn't have a choice but to rely on him. At that range it's virtually impossible to miss, so I'm sure they figured why not let him try? The people who said there was a shooter on the water tower did not actually see a shooter, they simply thought that's where the shots came from, mostly because they saw good guys pointing their guns up there - but the water tower is in line with the roof of the building, so they simply could have been mistaken. Videos do not show anyone on the tower.
The turn of Trump's head at the last second is the reason the bullet missed. However, the line of sight from the water tower would have been behind and to the left of Trump, so maybe that scenario doesn't work. The wounded in the bleachers are consistent with the kid taking 8 shots from his position on the roof. It's also possible that his handler sent him to marksmanship training. The shots 4-8 are so close together in the audio that he could not have been aiming between them.
Oh he definitely had help. Clearly they let him get on the roof, they left the stage unobstructed, they let him walk around with a range finder, fly a drone over the event site, they pulled SS agents off the detail, refused requests for additional agents, assigned DEI hire midget fatsos to guard a 6'3" President, made sure the counter-snipers were in locations with obstructed views of the roof, one of the counter-sniper assigned to the building roof supposedly left his post just as the shooting occurred while the other one didn't bother looking out the window as shots were being fired and then supposedly missed a shot at Crooks from 20 yards away, the list of bullshit that had to happen in order for this commie nutjob to get shots off at Trump is a mile long. There's no doubt in my mind they knew he was planning this and made sure he could pull it off. The SS didn't even bother showing up for the briefing with local PD the morning of the event.
Then we disagree. They can’t “know he was planning this…” without acting in concert with him. I see what you’re trying to say, but in my view it was a conspiracy, and if we don’t get to the bottom of who allowed all of those things to happen - or not happen - we have failed as a nation and it will happen again. It simply can’t be that difficult to interview everyone on site that day, and those in the chain of command above them who were not on site, and treat every damn one of them as murder suspects, it will be yet another cover-up.
Nothing of substance will happen until Trump is in the White House again, which begs the question, will he make it there? It sickens me that I live in the America I now find myself in.
One final point: THIS IS WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU ALLOW A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION TO BE STOLEN. Criminals steal. Honest people do not.
Sure they could have. They could have intercepted his communications and known what he was planning to do and simply set things up to make it super easy for him. While it's absolutely possible they could have actively assisted and communicated with him, there's no evidence of that - yet. Given the way he was wandering around with a range finder, making it super obvious he was planning to take a shot at Trump, it seems more likely to me that they just set it up to make sure he could do what he was already planning to do. Now they have plausible deniability with no direct connection to him.
No, they don't have plausible deniability because "they" - and a pretty significant number of "theys" - had to conspire to create those conditions. Which makes it sedition as well as conspiracy to commit murder. Like I said, there had better be some very tough questioning of everyone on site and up the management chain all the way to Alejandro Mayorkas. Impeachment is too good for him.
The way it sounds, Crooks was already on board. All they had to do was sell the idea to him. Make him believe he could get away with it, that they would take care of security for him.
They expected Trump to be in jail by this time. He was to be sentenced earlier I believe on the 11th, then it got delayed due to SCOTUS...I don't know what to believe anymore. The lies are bountiful.
I still get chills visualizing Trump wounded & vulnerable standing taller than his supposed protectors around him making him an easy target. Unbelievable! The fumbling & bumbling to get him to safety was excruciating to watch.
Yes it made for some photos for the ages, but it could have brought even more horror.
Will we ever learn the truth & backstory to this infamous day?
Him standing up was his fault. If he would have listened to his protection he would not have been standing
Don't forget that Crooks supposedly had a lot of homemade explosives both at home and in his car. Normal kid turned Rambo. What an unbelievable story.
"unbelievable" is the correct word of the day.
Amazing that a sloped roof was no concern on the Barn (that looks to be twice the height) that the counter snipers were posted on.
Bannon says this all the time and it applies - "See what you see".
SMELLS. LIKE. WEEK.
OLD. DEAD. FISH
He may not have thought he was going to die after shooting. Perhaps he somehow thought that the other snipers were allies. They may have recruited him as if he was part of their team. With them knowing that as soon as he killed Trump, they would dust him.
Yes. I believe they told him they would take care of security for him. I don't think he expected those local cops to show up.
Wow QAnon much? Every shooter has had more weapons, ammunition, or bombs in their house or car. This idiot is no different.
I suppose you still are buying the narrative that Covid came from a bat. 🤣🤣🤣
What actually happened was it was man made. We all know this. You know what else we all know that there was only one shooter
So we should just accept the narrative of a single shooter? Like how we accepted that same false narrative about the JFK assassination for 60 years. Even though there are already people doing credible audio analysis that strongly dispels the narrative of a single gunman.
There had never been a credible report that there were more than one shooter of JFK. A lot wild speculation and conspiracy theories that make the UFO controversy look sane but nothing credible to say otherwise.
Also since there has been zero evidence that there were more than one shooter, unless your saying the other shooter is even a worse shot than Cooks
"Zero evidence" - you mean like the magic bullet trajectory, multiple eye witness statements, an autopsy report showing two hits? Clearly none of which is "evidence" according to your definition of the word.
All I read was “I make whatever I want of the ‘evidence’ to fit my theory” hey want to believe there were more than one shooter more power to you. Does not change the facts but ok. Also you want to believe Biden was smart enough to steal the election for the president but not for the house you can believe that idiocy as well.
I'm not the one ignoring evidence.
Apparently, you haven’t seen all the recent reports that confirm the involvement of the CIA in the Kennedy assassination. Trump actually released some of the documents, but not all during his last term, and they might be afraid of him releasing the rest. There is almost nobody left anymore who believes the original report of the “magic bullet”.
lol yep and I am sure the Russians were in on it as well
Of course the Russians were not in on it, because Trump was colluding with them. Hillary said so, and I’m sure you trust her.
3 shooter , 11 shots fired 🤔🤔
FBI, DHS, DOJ, USSS, CIA. Did I miss any?
HSI, local PD, and likely NSA + foreign intelligence agencies helped to cover it up.
Kimberly Cheatle is a friend of Jill Biden that's how she got her job.
If I were prone to conspiracies I would be very suspicious of how fast they removed the body of the innocent victim from the bleachers. Almost as if he had been left there for a proper investigation (as it is practice on fatal shootings) the trajectory of the shot would not have been inconvenient for the lone wolf theory.
It had to be an inside job or the Secret Service was just terrible. It was the biggest f-up ever.
The gunshot without any recoil gives it away.
I don't know about all these theories, but there were certainly alot of "coincidences" and certainly many, many invalid, insipid and downright stupid excuses to say the least!
Seems so obvious. Forensic experts say for sure at least 3 shooters. With cell phones making data so available I hope everyone who had their phones on turn over their videos.
Everyone is missing the statement put out by one of the FBI sharp shooters, who said he had the killer in his sight for over 5 minutes but was told NOT TO ENGAGE. When he turned around and saw Trump go down, he disobeyed orders and took our the sniper. His name is Jonathan WIllis. He was arrested, then fired. He is out of jail, but I am sure they will try to bury him with his story. If you look on the Fox video of the two snipers inside the venue, you can see one with his eye to his scope, then turn around and quickly turn back and fire.
That came from a 4Chan post. It's fake. I wouldn't doubt that something like that happened though.
What makes the story fake? I’ve wondered why more wasn’t made of the statement. SERVAMUS
Based on what?
Clearly this entire event was setup to get Trump killed. What role the SS played as active participants in this is still to be fully determined. SS was taken off Trump and moved to Jill Biden and NATO events that day. Additional SS protection that was requested by Trump's team was refused. No SS showed up to brief the cops the day of the event. The people surrounding Trump were Marshals, not SS, as indicated by their US Marshals lapel pins. It is not clear who the snipers were in the second story, and eye witness say they just stood there and watched as Crooks shot at Trump. I could go on but it's all in the story.
lol yep you could but it would not make your story in any better. It is so full of fantasy.
Trump’s eldest daughter, Ivanka Trump, condemned the attack in a statement on X, thanking people for their prayers. “I am grateful to the Secret Service and all the other law enforcement officers for their quick and decisive actions today,” she wrote. “I continue to pray for our country.”
🤡
Really?
A close up photo of the sniper team that included the man with the tattoos on his left arm shows his vest back says POLICE in bold letters and “United States Secret Service” in smaller print. That refers to the
Sorry—refers to the team seen over Trump’s right shoulder. It is commonly claimed and shown in schematics of the area that a second sniper team was on the rooftop seen over Trump’s left shoulder. As to the term “local PD,” it is unclear (at least to me) what “local” means. Pennsylvania State Police? County sheriff and deputies? Municipal Police Department? Does anyone have links to photos of those other one, two, or three sniper teams and their uniforms and positions before and during the shooting?
The “anonymous” FBI shooter? You know the one that gave his name, but did not link his name to the post? Right
The one thing about this scenario that doesn't add up is that there is no way they would go to all this trouble and then trust the marksmanship of a kid who cannot shoot well. Two witnesses and a video put a second shooter on the water tower. The audio caught a total of 11 shots fired, which were some combination of Shooter #1, Shooter #2, and SS counter-snipers returning fire. I suspect the first shot that nicked Trump's ear was fired by the guy on the water tower. The kid was probably instructed to open fire as soon as he heard the first shot. He took three or four fast shots without aiming between them, thus hitting people in both sets of bleachers. Both rifles were suppressed. You still hear the crack of the supersonic round, but there was no very loud boom that an AR makes.
The problem with your theory is that Trump is still alive. Two shooters, one a professional, is a no-miss situation. I highly doubt there were two shooters simply because Trump is still breathing. They didn't have a choice but to rely on him. At that range it's virtually impossible to miss, so I'm sure they figured why not let him try? The people who said there was a shooter on the water tower did not actually see a shooter, they simply thought that's where the shots came from, mostly because they saw good guys pointing their guns up there - but the water tower is in line with the roof of the building, so they simply could have been mistaken. Videos do not show anyone on the tower.
The turn of Trump's head at the last second is the reason the bullet missed. However, the line of sight from the water tower would have been behind and to the left of Trump, so maybe that scenario doesn't work. The wounded in the bleachers are consistent with the kid taking 8 shots from his position on the roof. It's also possible that his handler sent him to marksmanship training. The shots 4-8 are so close together in the audio that he could not have been aiming between them.
Yeah the kid was obviously skilled. His parents said they thought he was at the rifle range that day, so he must have been practicing.
Rifle range explains it. Only one shooter. They trained him. But, it wasn't enough.
They? Who is they?
Whichever deep state agency recruited him. Probably the FBI. His phone was traced to the FBI HQ one year before the shooting.
You spend several pages showing how Crooks “had help” and then concluded that he acted alone. So, which is it??
Oh he definitely had help. Clearly they let him get on the roof, they left the stage unobstructed, they let him walk around with a range finder, fly a drone over the event site, they pulled SS agents off the detail, refused requests for additional agents, assigned DEI hire midget fatsos to guard a 6'3" President, made sure the counter-snipers were in locations with obstructed views of the roof, one of the counter-sniper assigned to the building roof supposedly left his post just as the shooting occurred while the other one didn't bother looking out the window as shots were being fired and then supposedly missed a shot at Crooks from 20 yards away, the list of bullshit that had to happen in order for this commie nutjob to get shots off at Trump is a mile long. There's no doubt in my mind they knew he was planning this and made sure he could pull it off. The SS didn't even bother showing up for the briefing with local PD the morning of the event.
Then we disagree. They can’t “know he was planning this…” without acting in concert with him. I see what you’re trying to say, but in my view it was a conspiracy, and if we don’t get to the bottom of who allowed all of those things to happen - or not happen - we have failed as a nation and it will happen again. It simply can’t be that difficult to interview everyone on site that day, and those in the chain of command above them who were not on site, and treat every damn one of them as murder suspects, it will be yet another cover-up.
Nothing of substance will happen until Trump is in the White House again, which begs the question, will he make it there? It sickens me that I live in the America I now find myself in.
One final point: THIS IS WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU ALLOW A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION TO BE STOLEN. Criminals steal. Honest people do not.
Sure they could have. They could have intercepted his communications and known what he was planning to do and simply set things up to make it super easy for him. While it's absolutely possible they could have actively assisted and communicated with him, there's no evidence of that - yet. Given the way he was wandering around with a range finder, making it super obvious he was planning to take a shot at Trump, it seems more likely to me that they just set it up to make sure he could do what he was already planning to do. Now they have plausible deniability with no direct connection to him.
No, they don't have plausible deniability because "they" - and a pretty significant number of "theys" - had to conspire to create those conditions. Which makes it sedition as well as conspiracy to commit murder. Like I said, there had better be some very tough questioning of everyone on site and up the management chain all the way to Alejandro Mayorkas. Impeachment is too good for him.
Mind control is in use I believe…
The way it sounds, Crooks was already on board. All they had to do was sell the idea to him. Make him believe he could get away with it, that they would take care of security for him.
Absolutely very clear to see, open your mind.
They expected Trump to be in jail by this time. He was to be sentenced earlier I believe on the 11th, then it got delayed due to SCOTUS...I don't know what to believe anymore. The lies are bountiful.